Platform Software ARC
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                          7/6/94 MEETING MINUTES
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ATTENDEES:      Bruce D.:   	        yes 
                Robert H.:              yes
                Mark K.:                yes
                Yousef K.:              yes
                Joseph Kowalski:        yes
                Terrence M.:            yes
                Bill Shannon:           yes
                Glenn Skinner:          yes
                Rangaswamy V.:          yes
                Sarah B.:               yes


PROJECT REVIEWS
  1994/197  PowerPC Commands  Inception Review: 
	o Submitter:  Brian Horn
	o Owner:  Terry M.
	ISSUES:
	1. Need the explicit list of changes
		o ARC requests a list of all architecturally significant
		  changes made, not necessarily every file touched.  This
		  is basically what team provided with the materials. 
		o Suggestion that it would be useful also to see the list
		  of things changed significantly to do the porting work. 
	2. questions on truss and crash
		o truss and crash are pretty much the same on PowerPC as
		  on SPARC, behaviorally, except for obvious changes such
		  as register dumping, formats, etc, as per the different
		  ISA. 
		o Noted that the PowerPC Library project may have some issues
		  with crash.  
	3. #ifdefs - what problem is being solved?
		o Team found some instances where there were effectively 
	 	  malloc routines that were not really called malloc.  Right
		  now the ifdefs are on the ISA.  Team has not actually made
		  any changes here but has not done so yet.  Would like to 
		  deliver into the system a list of defines based on ISA in 
		  isa.h, which have the max alignment requests or masks, plus
		  the basic types of alignment reqmts for short, long, double,
		  long long -- and then use them as appropriate. 
		o Why is this not a part of 1994/198?  No reason - this team
		  thought of it first.  ARC would like to see the specific
		  list of the defines to be added, and what their semantics
		  are.  This can be included as part of this case. 
	4. Project Private interfaces between ld and rtld, with regard to 
	   indefinite size of procedure linkage?
		o Team notes that ld has always been expected to provide the
		  space and branches to the procedure linkage table entries
	  	  hardcoded at ld time.  This team wants to change the 
		  responsibility of filling in the linkage table entries from
		  the static loader to the runtime loader.  This is for 
		  performance reasons.  Also makes the disk image a little
		  bit smaller.  Is this part of the ABI?  Yes, the intent
		  is for it to be included in the ABI, and therefore will be
		  a Public interface.  This team will communicate this to the
		  ABI team.  (Noted that this team must track the ABI...)
	5. UI for dis?
		o Some discrepancy between dis output, ADB output and KADB
		  output.  
		o Is there any requirement that dis output is as input?  No.
		  In fact, this would be detrimental in some cases. 
		o Do dis and ABD share any code for doing disassembly?  Yes,
		  they use common source - same assembly routine.  For all
		  architectures or just PowerPC?  This team only implemented
		  it for PowerPC.  Would be a good idea to carry this over
		  to all architectures!  ARC advises that a project be 
		  created to do this - Opinion should note.  
	6. What is libconv?  
		o This is a library archive that is part of ld.  It does
		  conversion from relocation numbers to names.  Included
		  here just for completeness. 
	o Loadkeys:  Team thought they worked the same as they do on SPARC.
	  However, a proposal is upcoming to change the way these work on
  	  PowerPC.  This will be a separate project, however. 
	o Commitment levels?  The ISA defs are Public.  The output formats 
	  are Uncommitted.  
	o This project is unanimously APPROVED.